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does anyone know where I can buy those plastic bags that freshly strung racquets come in? I'm starting to string for a few people and want to make it look professional. thanks
Jaypro,
I admire your eye for the finer details of what it takes to make a professional stringer.
From what I have understood about you talent for stringing, even if you supply the newly strung racquets in "Jays authentic plastic-bags" they are not going to fool even an average player into believing that he has had his racquet strung by a professional.
Please be a little more respectfull towards what some of us believe to be a real profession. Your attitude is an insult to a professional stringer's integrity and as such I feel that your posting is probably more of a joke of quite bad taste, revealling the mentality of the poster.
If and when you learn how to string a racquet correctly, you don't need a 'pro plastic-bag" to make it look professional, but there again it may well be much easier for you to source the plastic bags.
Hawkeye2
2004-07-14, 09:35
@Jay Cee
Hi, don't you think this was a little bit too grim ?! ;)
Jaypro already said that he wants "to make it look professional".
For me this shows that he is well aware of his current abilities but is trying to improve, just like the rest of us.
But I can understand if you are a little bit irritated by the way in which Jaypro handles some of our postings...
In my opinion there is no need for a plastic bag. It could make sense if you string natural gut to prevent it from wetness, but otherwise it's quite a waste of resources...
Bye
Hey Hawkeye2,
You should become a diplomate, I am just a stringer in one of the best specialist tennis shops in Paris, personally if this guy came into my shop I would tell him what I really think, believe me, my posting is mild mate, really smooth with just a touch of humour.
Stringing is like international travelling, ignorant tourists pass through Paris for 2 days, do an "open tour" on a double decker bus and go to see the "Mona Lisa" and then go home with about 300 digital photos that they use to support their "I KNOW Paris perfectly" etc. etc.
To visit just the "Louvre Museum" it is so vast that if one person was to spend 30 seconds in front of each art piece, and be there from opening to closing hours for every day of the week, it would take him 4 months to complete the visit.
Professonal Stringers are comparable to this, most of them are incredibly competant and also incredibly modest, the more you know the more you realise that there are still lots of things to learn, I learn something new every week and this has been accumulating since more than 20 years of stringing, but also I also do research and development for strings.
Don't tell me that Jaypro can present himself as a professional stringer when he doesn't even know how to string a racquet. This guy is a joke and he is wasting our time. People like this screw up the business for all of us, unfortunately he's not the only one, he's just shooting his mouth off and attracting attention to himself and I am fed up with it. I do not say that he is not capable of learning and maybe one day becoming a reasonable stringer, it will take time, but anything is possible.
In the meantime plastic-bags are still the best option. Go for it mate.
Hawkeye2
2004-07-14, 11:03
@Jay Cee
I've been in Paris in may !
Just for 5 days which is enough time to realize that you need at least a month to get to know this city a little bit.
We have been in the Louvre wednesday afternoon, it's a little bit cheaper then.
We were just wandering around, Mona Lisa of course, Venus from Milo and just some other works of art.
After 3 hours we were already exhausted and got the impression that could stay there for a year or two...
I would never assume that Jaypro is on his way to become a professional stringer...
I'm just a private stringer myself but I try to be as accurate as possible.
And I have learned a lot from your explanations, so no waste of time there !
Bye
@Hawkeye2 and Joe as well,
Thanks for your comments, I shouldn't get so pissed off, but sometimes it gets the better of me. I have taught hundreds of players to string well and to be proud of what they do. I have a personal following which is huge in France, and the message that I try to get accross is that you can always improve what you are doing, no matter how good a stringer you think that you are.
As you both know I am still totally passionned by strings and stringing, it is really a pleasure to share my experience with all those stringers who are open to friendly advice and are prepared to try something different. It also helps to animate Stringforum, and I would love to see this fantastic site become THE best data-base/player-stringer feed-back discussion board on the web. The competition is tough, but here we are getting more and more reactive, that is essential.
I enjoy exchanging views with both of you and adding a grain of salt or two to wind up the others. Keep up the good work.
JayCee, what you have said really hurt and offended me. I am new to stringing and want to learn and be the best that i can be. Just because i dont have a "following in France" doesnt mean that i cant be a good stringer. sorry if i aggravated your arrogant french ass. Just remember who liberated your sorry asses in WWII. People like you give the French a bad name you jerk. go eat a croissant.
Jaypro,
I appologise for your understandable mistake concerning french arrogance, they sometimes are, but this time your are off target.
I am Australian, not French, I just live in Paris.
So I will take your insults personnally without any problems, but leave the frenchies out of this. I just hope that you stick with stringing and become a good stringer and proud of your work, its a great satisfaction and a passionate pastime for thousands of players/stringers, but this passion demandes respect, I found your attitude to what I respect immensely to be unacceptable. That you have been hurt or insulted is in fact a good sign, that I was right to wind you up, and that you are now aware that you have to work hard to deserve to be considered as a good stringer. If what I said left you indifferent, there is no way that you would make it.
I am delighted by your comments, I am now confident that I haven't wasted my time on you, and that if one day you pass through Paris and look me up, I'll be happy to drink a beer (or 2) with you.
apology accepted JayCee. I do respect this profession and take it very seriously. Its not as easy as it looks. but with time and repitition, i hope 1 day to be considered a good stringer. Just 1 or 2 beers though? geez...
Im sorry about the stuff i said about you also JayCee
You know what guys, it really makes me happy to see that you two finally made friends with each other. :)
Hawkeye2
2004-07-16, 08:54
Hey,
a happy ending ! :)
Looking forward to solve the next problems with you guys...
Bye
Come on guys,
Stop getting emotional about this stuff, each one has the right to say what he thinks, the proof is here in writing, so what !!
So I offerd to have a drink with this jerk and he has accepted, big deal, so two jerks have a couple of beers together.
Now it's between Jaypro and me so let's keep the the encouragements and make-ups out of the postings, unless of course you want to join us for a beer (or 2), but not more than 10, because we might even start to look like real Pro Stringers (I could even dig out a couple of authentic "JAYS" plastic bags for the occasion.)
Happy postings guys.
Hawkeye2
2004-07-16, 10:41
@Jay Cee
Yepp,
enough of this small talk, just plain, clinical facts...
That's what life is all about, isn't it ?!
Come on, don't take everything too serious. In a forum like this you talk about issues. So talking involves some amount of jokes and teasing.
It shouldn't become some kind of babbling place, but I really appreciate some humour around.
And words like ass, jerk etc. are not the ones I want to read in this forum.
Bye
I agree, lets stop getting all huggy here. I apologized and thats that. Lets move on. I also agree that cheap shots sarcasm and good natured ribbing are fun and should be part of the forum. (i.e jaycee's shot at my plastic bag idea haha) I'm still going to use them, I dont care what you guys say!
@Hawkeye2,
This as more of a personal message to you Hawkeye2.
Your posting on the subject of certain words is OK by me, we may as well keep the party clean, but none of the terms used are, neither for an Australian nor for an American in any way shocking or insulting, they are currently used words with no unpleasant after-thoughts. I cannot be as forgiving concerning the insinuations to the French and the historical role of the GIs during WWII etc. etc. and the fact that you didn't find that worth mentionning shocks me even more than the stupid statement from Jaypro. Never-the-less this in not the time nor the place to open a debate on this subject, each one may have his opinion but better keep it under wraps.
I have been teasing Jaypro, throwing him a little "live bait" and hoping for a nibble, I was starting to think that he would never bite, then all of a sudden he became aware that I was provoking him. With the "plastic bags" he took the bait, hook, line and sinker and now we are starting to have some fun, he thinks that he can get away with it like that, no way, I am going to rub it in for quite some time to come.
So what, the guy's much smarter than I thought, he is just great at hiding his intellegence. In fact I'm the one that got sucked in by this guy. He has made more than 40 postings and most of them take him no more than 2 minutes to ask what is often a simple question. I spend half a day stringing racquets and looking exactly what I am doing so that I can spend 2 hours (using 2 fingers) on my lap-top, just to tell him what he needs to do. Then bingo, another question . . . here we go again.
You may not have noticed, I have never initiated any topics in this Forum, I have never asked any questions, I have spent countless hours trying to give advice to posters who are often calling out for help. Don't mistake my intentions, if I can be of any help to anyone (even Jaypro) then I am more that happy to do so.
One of my great moments of satisfaction was a small phrase from Jaypro where he replies to you " I also agree that cheap shots, sarcasm and good natured ribbing are fun and should be part of the forum." It is really nice to know that my participation in the "Discussion Board" will not ne strictly limited to serious postings (what a bore) because even you said to me "don't take everything too serious. In a forum like this you talk about issues. So talking involves some amount of jokes and teasing."
(In the absence of Joe's opinion on all of this . . . hello. . .Joe ???)
So it seems that we all agree on this essential point, that means that I can continue to stir up Jaypro about the plastic bags, and whilst I've got him on the end of the line, probably lots of other things as well. I am very encouraged that he has recognised some sarcasm, it's very frustrating when the person who is the object of this lowest form of wit (used, as the English say "by the highest form of intellegence") fails to catch on to the fact that we are making fun of him. He is now well aware, and I am sure that we can even get it to work both ways, I am convinced that (very) deep down Jaypro has everything he needs to become a real Pro Stringer. I will try to help him sharpen up his wit!! (Ambitious program.) Then we can start looking at his experiences as a "seriously confirmed beer drinker" to see if he has a chance to make the cut.
As far as my opinion is concerned, I've been experiencing a lot of "discussions" that got a little too personal in the end on the German discussion board and I'm quite sure the root of the problem might be that the communication via written text on the internet is not the optimal way to transport irony, sarcasm, teasing and so on... In real life there is the tone of your voice or the mimics on your face that tell the other person more than there is in the words only.
Thus it is nothing new to me that sometimes people over-react on certain statements of other people, and as long as it's not getting to a really hard level I'm usually watching the discussion and don't interfere too much.
However I really must say that Jaypro's statements about the French people were not adequate at all and I don't want to see something like that again on this board.
But it also applies to the others, if parts of your message are not intended to be taken seriously, please make sure they are not taken seriously. Making use of the smileys available will help.
Hi Joe,
That's fair and reasonable and of course vey well written.
Such wisdom so soon is very reassuring for all of us. I bow low in sign of my deepest respect your excellent reflections.
"Forgive me Master, I shall make a special effort to show more respect to Jaypro"
:cool:
Hey Jaypro,
Just to show that I mean what I say, here is where you can find those "JAYS Plastic Bags" : :D
http://jcsnyc.com/
Now it's up to you, :)
Bye. :cool:
hey thanks JayCee, those are exactly what i mean. ;)
Don't thank me Jaypro, I got pushed into revealing my sources, but for what it's worth I have always admired JAY's plastic bags and have remarked than Tecnifibre has successfully copied Jay's idea. :(
You may noticed that players on big tournaments (like the French Open) can be seen taking their Babolat racquets strung with Babolat strings out of a "Tecnifibre Plastic Bag". Can you imagine how Babolat feels about that one? :mad:
Which just goes to show, plastic bags can become a major issue. :D
I do thank you most sincerely for bringing up this subject, I admit that I have been a bit over the top in some of my postings, but between the 2 of us we have managed to create some interest in an aspect of professional stringer's services which may well have passed un-noticed. You are of course spot-on in the importance of returning the racquet to the client in a personalised plastic bag. This is brilliant marketing and will set you apart from all the other "less professional stringers" who wouldn't even see the interest in this. But there again they are probably half heartedly stringing on a second-hand Eagnas stringing machine and have no idea why someone (like you) would invest so much in a machine that doesn't even have an electric motor. :confused:
Only a man (or woman - I know some girls who really string a mean racquet, fast) with the ambition to become a good stringer would start stringing by investing in such a good machine, and for that reason I have payed very particular attention to you Jaypro. I may lay it on too thick for your liking, but guys like you who are prepared to go all the way to become a really good stringer, are quite difficult to find and now that I have found one I'm going to keep pushing him to make sure that he makes it. :cool:
As for the EGO, at my age I should be retiring soon, I am still stringing racquets every day, just to earn an average living. I have nothing much to show for my years of experience and under no circumstances think that I am a success. The only satisfaction I have is to be better than most in a very limited part of the tennis world and I have taken advantage of your lack of knowledge as a stringer to demonstrate how good I am, or more to the point, how little you know. This situation is already changing and the relative difference of our positions will one day become negligeable, so permit me to enjoy myself and make fun of you whilst I can. Unfortunately my limited English has obliged me to keep my postings short, but there again thats normal, I'm just a stringer (and proud of it!!!!)
;)
Double-fault
2004-07-18, 12:55
Jay Cee
Thank you for your post, I have been enjoy reading your post.
Like you said "limited English", I would be read a lot more if your English are unlimited. ;)
I did learn a lot from this Stringforum.net, from reading your post, and everyone else, start out without any knowlege about stringing maching or string, or racket, and today I can string my own racket with pride and still have a lot to learn from.
Again, Thank you for Stringforum.net, everyone contributed here.
:)
Jay Cee and Jaypro crack me up.
:D
Hey Double-fault,
You make my day, mate, thanks. :D :D :D
In fact you are the one that gives me the best laughs, and the most satisfaction, at least your are getting somewhere with your somewhat limited material (machine mate, I wasn't talking about your brain, thats now my favourite subject with Jaypro, because we don't have much left to say about the plastic bags), I can't imagine how good a stringer you could be with a machine like his. :D
We will work on this project, we are going to upgrade your machine, or find a good one to aim for in the future.
Thanks again for your postings. :cool:
Hawkeye2
2004-07-18, 13:39
@Jay Cee
Jaypro's statements about WWII are not worth any comments at all.
But you can't blame Jaypro it's just the american mentality:
"We save the world, even from non existent weapons of mass destruction...(no, oil has absolutely nothing to do with it !)"
So, if I see comments like this I just ignore them.
No reason to be shocked...
Bye
@Hawheye2,
I hate to admit it, but you are absolutely right. I tried to ignore it, but it got the better of me, your way is better, but let's not start lighting a fire under Jaypro's butt, he could get upset and offended all over again, and even threaten to quit the Forum. :(
That really would be a pity, even Double-fault cracks up on our postings, Jaypro is lots of fun so let's try to keep him on board as long as possible.
OK Jaypro ? :confused: (yeah, I admire you too :D :D :D :D )
Have a great day, all of you!
Double-fault
2004-07-18, 17:41
Group hug anyone?
Oh, never mind.
I'm married.
You guys can start without me.
:D
:D
Jay Cee
I"m start to save my money for my upgrade, so keep an eye or eyes out for my project.
;)
Thanks Jay Cee
If you ever head to this side of the pond, you can pick your favor beers on me. ;) ;)
With pleasure Double-fault, I'll try to get there when Jaypro is around, I have a sneaky feeling that he is a cheap drunk (to an Aussi that means you only need a couple of beers to get stoned) and that he needs some serious training if he wants to become a real pro stringer. :D :D
In fact the secret of it all is that even after 10 beers, with a real pro you can't tell the difference. As they (we) spend all day stringing and they never have to think about what they are doing, either their brain becomes completely rusty (yeah, that's why they go nuts) or they become witty loud mouthed characters and even after 10 beers they don't get any better. :(
Don't look at me like that Jaypro, I am not talking about myself, I'm far too modest. :cool:
Thats why you can't tell the difference, no exterior sign of intelligence. Now if Jaypro is a real good beer drinker, he has amost all the qualities required to become one hell of a Pro Stringer. I'm just worried that he can't hold a beer, that is not given to everyone, and much more difficult to learn than stringing. ;)
You catch on to it mate ?? :confused:
Double-fault
2004-07-18, 18:13
I don't want to be a real pro stringer, because I'm a cheap drunk.
:D
One beer is all I need.
So with a good company, great time are not required how many beer you can or can't drink. So my offer still stand.
:D :D :D
Sounds good to me, at least that way it won't cost too much to have a good time, unless of course and Jaypro drinks like a fish. This guy is always full of surprises, so we will just have to wait for him to tell us how he can shape up for the (clean) party. :D :D
this 1 is for Joe...hey Joe, i apologize for my insensitive remarks toward the french, but they were directed at JayCee, not the French, but i am sorry. I love this board, I think it's great, keep up the good work! I hope i can 1 day stop ASKING questions and start ANSWERING some haha
JayCee, i completely understand the "beating up the new kid" thing. it's normal for a person with years of experience and knowledge to show off to the new guy what he/she knows. Its the food chain mentality. Now if you REALLY mean what you said about me having the potential to become a pro stringer, then thank you, that means alot. I've found over the past 3 weeks or so that i really enjoy doing it. I havent once gotten frustrated at all when i mess up or cant figure something out. Now i can do a stick in 40 minutes without messing up at all...by the way, i am using the "8 lbs rule" when i do the last 2 mains on the short side, and i also do it when i do the last 2 crosses before i tie off. I think i have potential, but I'de like to get a little faster with my weaving, but i still want to pay close attention to what i am doing. Now as far as beer drinking goes....my friend you have no idea..we could do some serious damage in Paris, Australia, UK, USA or wherever we are. That'd be a good time for sure. Imagine, you, Hawkeye, Joe, Double-Fault and me in a bar together? Interesting to say the least!
@Jaypro
Thank you, and also thanks for apologizing to Jay Cee, haven't seen that happen very often in other cases. That actually shows you have some character!
Please keep asking questions, we don't have to reply if we don't want to ;)
Things are looking much better, but Jaypro I not at all confident in your choice of drinking buddies :(
Just have a look at this lot before we make any commitments :
- Double-fault already says that he's wiped out after ONE beer.
- It is definitely not part of our "Spiritual Leader's" qualities, so Joe's out.
- Hawkeye2 worries me, because he appears a little delicate on some of our terms of endearment (maybe a little gets lost in the translation), never-the-less this is not really a good sign that he could keep up with us. :confused:
However I know a couple of experts in this specialty (they are also stringers), who are also particularly rich in very funny stories (clean jokes :D :D )
and a good Aussi Bar in Paris with EXCELLENT Aussi beer, man who needs the others? ;) ;)
Leave them on their Board and we will send a couple of postings to update them.
A deal ??? :p
:cool:
Soubds like a plan JayCee. upon further review, I think you may be right...the others will be passed out or whining to go home while we are just getting started on the night. i have a few buddies also (1 is a former top 200 player in the world) he can put us ALL under the table, and a buddy that owns a shop who til he got married could hang with the best of them also but he is still a barrel of laughs. so betweem us and our friends i am sure we can have 1 hell of a good time! til next time my friend...
Yep, sounds like it's coming together nicely.
:cool:
Hawkeye2
2004-07-21, 12:50
@Jay Cee
being 2 Metres tall and weighing just under 100 KGs I should be able to give you some tough comepetition at a bar...
And to be honest I'm not so victorian as you might think...
Bye
you guys really have me confused with this metric system stuff...meters, kg's etc...why cant we all measure in lbs, inches and feet?? lol
Hey Dirk,
That's quite big man, I'm only 1,84M. but at about 98 kgs, I reckon that I'm quite solid, I am certainly in the heavy weight category of seriously confirmed beer drinkers. :)
Despite the size I'm thought to be timid, modest and very quietly spoken, never tell dirty jokes (even after about 10 pints), in fact if I wasn't so big people wouldn't even notice me in the bar. ;)
Maybe i'm more Victorian than you think. :D :D :D
Hey Jaypro, it looks like Hawkeye2 should be reconsidered to be present for our next Board Meeting, it appears that he has the necessary qualifications.
:cool:
so he says, it definitely appears so my friend
Holden Caulfield
2005-04-15, 14:45
Brings tears to my eyes.
skarkboy
2005-07-22, 03:00
yall crack me up
M0rgan77
2005-09-02, 00:09
Noow that I have started stringing for more and more people I would like to put the racquets in thoes plastic bags to make IT LOOK professional ;) . www.jcsnyc.com (http://www.jcsnyc.com) doesn't work. Is there any other place I can get them?? :confused: .
socrates
2006-01-25, 18:21
Is this what you are looking for:
http://www.atssports.com/Tennis.cfm?ProdID=653&PageNum_Results=5&category=4&secondary=0&manufacturer=0
M0rgan77
2006-01-28, 22:40
Ya thanks. I found them a while ago. Welcome to this site!
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